Luger markings - Technically, a "VoPo Luger" is a Luger that was issued to and used by the East German Volkspolizei ("VoPo"), and is identifiable as such by Volkspolizei property markings. Your Luger is not a VoPo Luger. Rather it is a Luger that was overhauled and exported from Germany after West Germany and the (former) East Germany were reunited into one nation.

 
Edward Tinker. 18052 posts · Joined 2003. #10 · Oct 15, 2009. commercial lugers never have a date on the receiver, so there is a huge amount of them without dates; also between 1922-1935 there were no dates on military guns. However, Ron is correct in the assesment.... Riverside shooting club

© 2024 Google LLC. This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38 pistol series with examples at hand. I tried to make it as …The following markings can be found on pistol-. Left Rear Frame By Safety: P.08. Top: 41 byf. Front of Frame: 8278 with 3E marked under that on curved part of frame. Left Front Frame by Barrel: 8278. Right Front Frame by Barrel: 655 655 with eagle marks above both numbers, eagles have 3 wings, a lone eagle is to the right of the second 655.Thanks: 33. Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts. Breakdown of P08 markings. Hi all, When I first joined the forum I posted some pics of my P08 for some general feedback and received some great information that I really appreciated. This time however I decided to post a complete breakdown of my P08 showing all the marking I could find with the hope ... %PDF-1.2 %忏嫌 12 0 obj /Length 13 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream H壗W踤? ? 眉 H 醚膨e邭&Yt?疗菥 XP m薄D暏夂_? 藂 $n?昀⑴9s鎣& E 琣 羅08[ N/C ... since 1891 Ferlach provisional proof for multi barrel guns. 1892-1918 Prague provisional proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Ferlach black powder proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Prague black powder proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Weipert black powder proof for rifles. 1892-1918 Vienna black powder proof for rifles. 1918-1938 Ferlach black powder proof for rifles. Developed by Paul Mauser and his brother, Wilhelm, this single-shot blackpowder arm was superseded by a tubular-magazine repeater, the German Model 71/84. These early Mausers were produced by the ...1937 s/42 luger markings. 1937 s/42 luger,serial number 8571r,my first luger, recently purchased.the markings on the pistol grip represent,burroughs of berlin post war,S= soviet zone, X1X=19,the district of pankow,and the daisy star symbal= post war use,berlin was divided up into 23 districts,and split between the 4 allies in 1945,the soviet ...The second thing I observed was that the instrument which strikes Luger witness marks must be extremely thin and extremely sharp, unlike the chisel I had at hand. Test strike #1 on the example picture is actually a double strike, because on the first strike the chisel moved too far back onto the receiver.There are a lot of marking on the under side of the barrel that I haven't seen on other Lugers. Where the barrel meets the frame on the under side are the numbers 8.83, immediately down the barrel from that is the small cursive "d", then the serial 4194. Just beyond the serial, is a stamp I can't identify, but the letters "NP" clearly stamped ...luger 1917 double 1920 artilery start, a star burst above trigger guard with a shild inside, with 23 in it. Mark Evans.1900-1918: Luger Unit Markings. Unit histories, in action photographs, and related accessories. 7K 2.1M May 5, 2024. 7K 2.1M May 5, 2024. WEIMAR LUGERS 1920-1933: Reissued Imperial Lugers. Army, Navy, Police. May have: 1920 Reichswehr property stamp, Weimar Army/Navy/Police unit markings, indications of Weimar ReworkThanked 354 Times in 138 Posts. Swiss Commercial Markings. All the Swiss Lugers that I have had the pleasure of examining have had a Cross/V, Cross/N or a Cross/M control proof.. The pistol examples with a P was a marking for sale or release to the public. There are some dealers that identify their Lugers that have no P marks as …Wood Grip Markings. Hi All! I just purchased my first Luger today, so excited to be joining the ranks of owners. I've been searching the forum high and low but can't seem to find the answer so hoping you can help. I purchased a 1939 marked 42 Luger, SN 8573q. I've fully disassembled the gun and it is all matching but the grips …Oct 24, 2019 ... In this episode, Tom talks about WW2 Nazi Lugers. He also talks about the difference between a common WW2-era Mauser Luger P.08 and what the ...Technically, a "VoPo Luger" is a Luger that was issued to and used by the East German Volkspolizei ("VoPo"), and is identifiable as such by Volkspolizei property markings. Your Luger is not a VoPo Luger. Rather it is a Luger that was overhauled and exported from Germany after West Germany and the (former) East Germany were reunited into one nation.Jan C Still RIP. 4384 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Feb 23, 2005. Balder. The two stamps to the left are a crown/E (or G?) and a crown/B German Army acceptance stamps and the stamp on the right is a German eagle test proof. The reported 1911 DWM serial range is 4089b-166f. The L is almost certainally an "e" or "c".Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post. Re: Help to identify a 1940 Luger. Your Luger was made in 1940 by Mauser. The 42 on the middle toggle link is the wartime code for Mauser. The E/655 stamps are the army acceptance marks, and the E/Swastika on the receiver, barrel, and breech block is the firing proof. The magazine should have the full serial number ...Serving in the Great War. Soldiers and their units. German unit markings... help with id. Remembered Today: Infanterist Johann GEBHARDT 3./Bayer.R.I.R.21 German Army who died 08/05/1917 CITE BONJEAN MILITARY CEMETERY, ARMENTIERES France. GWF is free to use so please support the Forum.G. Unknown member Discussion starter. #1 · Mar 28, 2006. I have a DWM 1915 chamber dated 9mm Luger, 4" blued barrel. On the underside of the barrel, in front of the trigger guard, it is marked with what looks like a lower case cursive "h" beneath the serial number "59xx" and beneath the cursive letter the numbers "8,82".55 posts · Joined 2017. #1 · Feb 7, 2017. Given the many, many unmarked Luger magazines with both wood and aluminum bottoms on Ebay and Gun Broker, et al, the selling by Sarco of unmarked knock off magazines with wood bottoms, the existence of genuine but unmarked Luger magazines, the ready availability of cloned magazine bottoms of wood …Herb, the answer is yes. There is on the barrel eagle/N (Nitro proof) and eagle/J (= Instandsetzung; repair). According the German gun proof law it was necessary to reproof a gun when a substantial repair was carried out. A new barrel is such a case. The repaired or replaced part of the gun received the eagle/J marking.markings are evident. Since the U.S. has no proofing houses (as in England, France, Germany and other European countries), most U.S. manufacturers voluntarily proof their firearms with a specifed style of proofmark (i.e. the interlocked ©WPª synonymous with the Winchester trademark can be fired using modern smokeless powder) shells.We received more rescued Lugers from Canada this week! What magazine variation is proper for your Luger P.08? Tom answers that question and gives a detailed ...%PDF-1.2 %忏嫌 12 0 obj /Length 13 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream H壗W踤? ? 眉 H 醚膨e邭&Yt?疗菥 XP m薄D暏夂_? 藂 $n?昀⑴9s鎣& E 琣 羅08[ N/C ...WWI Luger Identification Help. Good Morning! I purchased this Luger for a very reasonable price and wanted to inquire with you, the Luger experts, about its markings/story behind it. WHAT I KNOW: It is a 1918 WWI Luger, Navy, serial number 4793, from Erfurt, and has various other stamp markings which I attempted to find the meaning of with no ...Herb, the answer is yes. There is on the barrel eagle/N (Nitro proof) and eagle/J (= Instandsetzung; repair). According the German gun proof law it was necessary to reproof a gun when a substantial repair was carried out. A new barrel is such a case. The repaired or replaced part of the gun received the eagle/J marking.Learn how to locate and record the serial numbers of your German Luger pistol, a classic firearm that was used by German forces in World War I and II and other countries. The serial numbers include the script letter, the production series, the make, the frame and the slide numbers.Even the grips match! 1940 chamber dated Luger rig with 1 original aluminum Nazi magazine not matching. 4" barrel has an Very good and shiny bore ! No import marks with a possible re-blue. 2100$. Can meet up in either San Marcos, new Braunfles or seguin. World two 223 7.62 308 ww2 1940 German Luger p08 Issue 42 Code. 5.Jan C Still RIP. 4384 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Feb 23, 2005. Balder. The two stamps to the left are a crown/E (or G?) and a crown/B German Army acceptance stamps and the stamp on the right is a German eagle test proof. The reported 1911 DWM serial range is 4089b-166f. The L is almost certainally an "e" or "c".May 18, 2011 ... ... Luger pistol. I know very little about Luger ... Luger collectors live in a special world of fine discrimination with regard to markings, surface ... Under the barrel serial number is the gauge markings 8.82 measuring the distance between the lands. This all matching Luger with the barrel serial number and gauge markings along with the suffix "x" on the frame and the matching serial number w/the suffix "c" on the late 1930's type 'FXO' E37 extruded magazine. An easier way to initially identify your Luger is to categorize by toggle marking first - then by chamber marking within groups (chronologically for dated chambers). Once you know period of manufacture, simply refer to the appropriate subheading in this section. While some rare variations will be excluded in this generalized overview, it will ...German Police Unit Marks, 1920-1937. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued by the German authorities from the ...It is indeed a commercial Luger; what is now termed an "Alphabet" Luger produced in the mid-1920's. The suffix letter is a "p" and is part of the serial number 2081p. The Alphabet commercial Lugers are thought to be the most commonly encountered models and most are in 7.65mm (.30 Luger). While perhaps the most common model, the …Jun 22, 2023 · M1906 Navy Luger (top) with stock, holster, and magazine pouch—finding a complete rig such as this is difficult and expensive. An unaltered Navy Luger (bottom) showing the safe marking in the lower position of the safety lever. (Courtesy of Rock Island Auction Service) June 22, 2023 By Leroy Thompson. I bought my first Luger pistol in 1968. 1900-1918: Luger Unit Markings 1917 Unit markings help. Jump to Latest ... I inherited this gun 10 years ago and looking it over ive noticed these marking on the inner grip bracket P.N.19 wondering what anyone can tell me about this gun and these marking. Ive read through lots of pages here but didnt find anything that matches.Learn about the Luger pistol, a German-made semi-automatic firearm with a distinctive toggle-joint mechanism and a V-shaped rear sight. Find out how to identify, value and research your Luger …The Aging Outdoorsman. The Dark Side of Spring. Last Day Duck. The Never Give Up Buck. German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. Decoding these proof marks is very useful in determining the age and history of the gun.The marking on your Luger is probably from the police of a small city or town in Germany. These were known as Kommunalepolizei or Gemeindepolizei. The Sda. is the abbreviation for the city. The low weapon number is consistent with this having been a small police force. I am writing a book on German police markings and would like to …The 9 millimeter Luger and 9 millimeter Parabellum ammunition are the same cartridge with different names. They are both the 9x19mm ammunition cartridge, commonly referred to as si...792 AE !! 897 S BUG 1 916 S BUG no N 1 E no unrelieved frame 1000 1147 S no no N 2 E no 1261 Bulgarian 1408 S BUG no N 2 E no 2000 2001 C no 2002 AE no no 2 E GERMANY 2004 AE no GERMANY 2007 AE no GERMANYThe markings inside a ring shank indicate the type of metal, the karat weights or the name of the manufacturer, designer or jeweler. The most common stamp is the karat weight of th...Some Spreewerk P.38s appear to be marked "cvq", however that is likely due to a damaged die stamp, where the leg of the "y" was missing. A Canadian solider inspecting a captured P.38. Now that you know a little more about this somewhat uncommon P.38 manufacturer, view this chart in order to determine the production date …Some Spreewerk P.38s appear to be marked "cvq", however that is likely due to a damaged die stamp, where the leg of the "y" was missing. A Canadian solider inspecting a captured P.38. Now that you know a little more about this somewhat uncommon P.38 manufacturer, view this chart in order to determine the production date of your example.This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38 pistol series with examples at hand. I tried to make it as straight forward...Hallock, describes some Imperial Luger pistol used by the Thai Police. These pistols survived WWI and were sold as surplus to the Royal Thai Police somewhere ...It is indeed a commercial Luger; what is now termed an "Alphabet" Luger produced in the mid-1920's. The suffix letter is a "p" and is part of the serial number 2081p. The Alphabet commercial Lugers are thought to be the most commonly encountered models and most are in 7.65mm (.30 Luger). While perhaps the most common model, the condition of ...Members. 383. Gender:Male. Location:Tennesee and North Carolina,USA. Interests:Cowboy shooting,guns,Dawg,wife,reading,my kids. SASS# 29509. Withlacoochee Renegades and Flat Branch Ranch. Posted December 19, 2010. I ran into a Luger today in 9mm that had no makers marks or any other markings but a four digit serial number.The only distinctive marking of these particular guns was a new date of issue added to the one already marked over the chamber. Consequently, we find the “two-date” model. (For example, a Luger that already had the date “1918” over the chamber now had “1920” above the “1918,” not superimposed upon it.DWM Luger Identification Guide. Borchardt C93 - produced 1893-1902. First Mass-produced Semi-automatic Pistol. Caliber 7.62mm - 6.5" barrel. Approximately 3,000 produced. Borchardt-Luger - produced 1895-1896. …Sep 6, 2022 ... ... Luger - proof marks, acceptance marks, serial numbers, and variations in finish and construction. The book is just over 300 pages, divided ...The Belgian military used three markings. The progression can be followed - the first group was missing one of the three markings, another group was missing two of the three markings, the third group was missing all three maarkings. (The latter are very few.) In the high 43 thousand range, there are a few with one of the markings missing.1937 s/42 luger markings. 1937 s/42 luger,serial number 8571r,my first luger, recently purchased.the markings on the pistol grip represent,burroughs of berlin post war,S= soviet zone, X1X=19,the district of pankow,and the daisy star symbal= post war use,berlin was divided up into 23 districts,and split between the 4 allies in 1945,the soviet ...Hallock, describes some Imperial Luger pistol used by the Thai Police. These pistols survived WWI and were sold as surplus to the Royal Thai Police somewhere ...May 5, 2016 · Re: Luger markings identification - help. Post by von thoma » 07 May 2016, 02:26. I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). 14. German military proof. Found on barrel and breechblock, 1908-1913, and breechblock only, 1914-1918. " The right to believe is the right of those who don't know ". Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture.Sep 6, 2022 ... ... Lugers, and a 1906 American Eagle 9mm Luger. What was amazing, the ... Close-up of the DWM markings on the American Eagle Lugers. (Leroy ...Apr 26, 2015 ... Any gripstrap markings? Is the holster(it's a police holster as evidenced by the stud/strap closure) or td tool numbered? This one also had ...The Aging Outdoorsman. The Dark Side of Spring. Last Day Duck. The Never Give Up Buck. German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. Decoding these proof marks is very useful in determining the age and history of the gun.Hi I obtained a 1914 Luger holster without the takedown tool. I would like to get one, but I do not know what markings would be proper for that year. Down the road I would like to find a 1914 pistol for it (DWM or ERFURT). ... Hi David, Better photos of the markings would help. The B.A.XII 14 mark stands for Bekleidungs-Abteilung #12, 1914, …Luger Magazine Help. My Dad used to collect WWII stuff including a few 9MM German Lugers. When going through some his old stuff, I found a Luger magazine, and I am trying to ascertain whether or not it is worth anything. The bottom of the magazine appears to be aluminum, and it has several markings on it. On top is stamped "8434".Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. Vickers Ltd. - England&break;6. Waffenfabrik Bern - Bern, Switzerland&break;7. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. On later production guns, matching numbered magazines enhance value.When starting with Lugers, I recommend studying before buying guns. There are a huge number of variations, and many markings to become familiar with, as …Jun 3, 2017 ... One will sometimes encounter German WW1 arms - mostly Lugers and Kar98 carbines - that have two date stamps, one of them being 1920.The following markings can be found on pistol-. Left Rear Frame By Safety: P.08. Top: 41 byf. Front of Frame: 8278 with 3E marked under that on curved part of frame. Left Front Frame by Barrel: 8278. Right Front Frame by Barrel: 655 655 with eagle marks above both numbers, eagles have 3 wings, a lone eagle is to the right of the second 655.Even the grips match! 1940 chamber dated Luger rig with 1 original aluminum Nazi magazine not matching. 4" barrel has an Very good and shiny bore ! No import marks with a possible re-blue. 2100$. Can meet up in either San Marcos, new Braunfles or seguin. World two 223 7.62 308 ww2 1940 German Luger p08 Issue 42 Code. 5.May 21, 2018 ... Watch Forgotten Weapons - How to Check If A P08 Luger Has All Matching Serial Numbers - guntubearchiver on Dailymotion.DWM Luger Identification Guide. Borchardt C93 - produced 1893-1902. First Mass-produced Semi-automatic Pistol. Caliber 7.62mm - 6.5" barrel. Approximately 3,000 produced. Borchardt-Luger - produced 1895-1896. …Wood Grip Markings. Hi All! I just purchased my first Luger today, so excited to be joining the ranks of owners. I've been searching the forum high and low but can't seem to find the answer so hoping you can help. I purchased a 1939 marked 42 Luger, SN 8573q. I've fully disassembled the gun and it is all matching but the grips …ORIGINAL WW1 WWII GERMAN DARK BROWN LEATHER LUGER P08 HOLSTER . MARKING "P". Opens in a new window or tab. Pre-Owned. $199.00. petargo_military (25) 93.1%. or Best Offer +$15.00 shipping. from Bulgaria. WWI German Military Holster for P08 Luger Pistol - Joseph Woll Dated 1916 - XLNT. Opens in a new window or tab.I agree with the rarer an item is, the less an import marking matters. But I'd say an import marking on an average, nice example brings the value down 30-40% --- although I think that since the large influx of SKS', AK's, Toks, Russian / East German lugers, Mausers, etc over the last 20 years that newer collectors don't seem as …9. Date - is mostly obvious - but a 1920 can be a government marking or a date, so showing us helps a lot 10. Here is an unusual spot for a unit marking, this one is police. Be advised that on rare occasions you will find one on the rear strap or the back of the toggle area. Also, Navy guns may be marked on the rear gripstrapMay 18, 2011 ... ... Luger pistol. I know very little about Luger ... Luger collectors live in a special world of fine discrimination with regard to markings, surface ...These have what looks like a VOPO X cross-out mark on the right grip, while the left grip has Eagle/N proofs, which I think are commercial Mauser proofs. The checkering apears finer than typical Masuer luger grips. They fit a VOPO marked Mauser frame that came with it and some other parts. The frame is serial V series.1914 markins yes 1914 mauser, thats the exact same marking in almost the same location except mine is a little higher up with the same S KK IV .like i said another guy, on another forum showed a luger with the same marking and he called it a berlin star/flower said it was east german marking.what i really wanted to know is if this …There are a lot of marking on the under side of the barrel that I haven't seen on other Lugers. Where the barrel meets the frame on the under side are the numbers 8.83, immediately down the barrel from that is the small cursive "d", then the serial 4194. Just beyond the serial, is a stamp I can't identify, but the letters "NP" clearly stamped ...Some Spreewerk P.38s appear to be marked "cvq", however that is likely due to a damaged die stamp, where the leg of the "y" was missing. A Canadian solider inspecting a captured P.38. Now that you know a little more about this somewhat uncommon P.38 manufacturer, view this chart in order to determine the production date …The third contract was more important. Some 10.000 Lugers, serial numbered 1-5000 and 1C-5000C went to this country, known as the 1908 Bulgarian Luger. I guess this would be a third contract Bulgarian pistol. My serial number falls into this range. I guess someone scrubbed out the cyrillic writing under the saftey lever.Mar 4, 2021 · One of the more interesting subcategories to pursue in Luger collecting is acquiring pistols with unit markings stamped into the frame, usu ally on the front strap of the pistol. Although the markings can vary, they can sometimes be specific enough to identify the company from which the pistol originally came, speculatively giving the owner an ... The Simson Lugers bore specific markings and one can find the firm's name on the front toggle link or the S code letter (at the end of the production). In 1934 ...DWM Luger P-08 9mm Pistol. The DWM Luger that is the subject of this review. Photo by Chuck Hawks. The Luger (Pistole Parabellum or P-08) is perhaps the most aesthetically and ergonomically pleasing of all autoloading centerfire pistols. It is also one of the strongest, most accurate and most recognizable service pistols ever made.BYF 41VARIATIONS. Mausers byf manufacturing code replaced the 42 code in early 1941. Its use continued until German Army contract Luger production ceased in late 1942. All 41 byf Lugers bear the late Test Proof (LTP), a P.08 stamped on the left frame panel, and have a bore gauge. Acceptance Stamps Variations.The holster is for the M1904/08 or M1904/14 (1916-1917 dated) navy Lugers, is made of a rich dark brown leather and has a cleaning rod pouch sewn on the leading edge holster spine with a cover flap secured by a steel stud and slot with small circular leather end caps. On the holster body is a pull-up strap.Edward Tinker. 18186 posts · Joined 2003. #6 · Jun 9, 2018. I see what was originally a WW1 army luger that since then has been buffed and reblued. The markings, as said above are the acceptance and then proof marks on the right. See the FAQ in the new collector area for some more views and then each forum has 'stickies' at the top.Jan C Still RIP. 4384 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Feb 28, 2005. HBG. I have examined several Nazi era Lugers with ss runes or a deaths head stamped someplace. In my opinion (and that of most experienced collectors), the markings were all added post WWII. The box appears contempory. I would have kept the Dutch Luger.Sep 6, 2022 ... ... Luger - proof marks, acceptance marks, serial numbers, and variations in finish and construction. The book is just over 300 pages, divided ...German Police Unit Marks, 1920-1937. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued by the German authorities from the ...

Recently imported Lugers with the importer's markings visible are typically priced in the $450-$700 range. Every year more and more reblued, restrawed, regripped, reframed, and rebarreled Lugers are sold to unknowing military handgun collectors as rare variations. . Benihana alpharetta menu

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Re: Luger markings identification - help. Post by von thoma » 07 May 2016, 02:26. I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). 14. German military proof. Found on barrel and breechblock, 1908-1913, and breechblock only, 1914-1918. " The right to believe is the right of those who don't know ".Mark Spencer is a well-known clothing store that has been around for decades. With its wide range of fashionable apparel and accessories, the store has become a go-to destination f...If you work in the field of surveying or construction, you may have come across the term “bench mark elevation correction.” This process is crucial to ensure accurate measurements ...According to Costanzo, page 74,(World of Luger Proof Marks) the so called Erfurt Eagle (test Proof) is found on the left breech block of 1915 to 1917 DWM Lugers and on the right barrel of 1916 to 1918 DWM Lugers. ... According to 1910 marking instructions the Luger power proof test eagle is to be a “heraldic eagle” (Gortz and Bryans, p. 111 ...The Imperial German Regimental Marking [Revised Edition] by Jeff Noll. 1998, published by Jeff Noll; PO Box 7184; Ventura, California, 93006. Imperial German Regimental Markings is just under 200 pages long with a nicely bound 8 ½ by 11 format. This is an excellent text on decoding Imperial Regimental markings. The book has four important parts.1914 Luger Artillery Markings. Jump to Latest Follow 3K views 16 replies 7 participants last post by Retired Squid Jun 1, 2019. Retired Squid Discussion starter 644 posts · Joined 2015 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · May 30, 2019. I need some help with the markings on the right side of the receiver (I highlighted them in white just so ...Herb, the answer is yes. There is on the barrel eagle/N (Nitro proof) and eagle/J (= Instandsetzung; repair). According the German gun proof law it was necessary to reproof a gun when a substantial repair was carried out. A new barrel is such a case. The repaired or replaced part of the gun received the eagle/J marking.Luger Markings. Jump to Latest Follow 1K views 2 replies 3 participants last post by Pete E. Feb 22, 2008. O. original-condition Discussion starter 46 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 22, 2008. Hello, I would like to know the significance of the HP markings on a luger currently listed on Gunbroker. ... Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. Vickers Ltd. - England&break;6. Waffenfabrik Bern - Bern, Switzerland&break;7. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. On later production guns, matching numbered magazines enhance value. Finding any pre 1915 Luger with a matching mag and in top condition has always been a challenge to collectors. When you factor in the likelihood (1%) of a unit marking, this example is even more unique and perhaps incredibly unique given the unusual marking and the position on the rear grips strap.In 96-97% condition, we have a scarce and very unusually Unit marked German Army Issued 1914 DWM P.08 Luger Pistol.. This pistol is totally matching to include the magazine. What makes this so interesting and usual is that this is actually unit marked on the rear grip strap and the marking it’self is very unusual, M.L. 13/ J.R. 22 ….

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